{"id":80117,"date":"2026-07-22T20:01:55","date_gmt":"2026-07-22T18:01:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/estulin.media\/?post_type=de_contenido&#038;p=80117"},"modified":"2026-07-22T20:01:55","modified_gmt":"2026-07-22T18:01:55","slug":"revelaciones-de-una-ex-insider-de-la-oms-y-la-onu-con-astrid-stuckelberger-3","status":"publish","type":"de_contenido","link":"https:\/\/estulin.media\/en\/contenido\/revelaciones-de-una-ex-insider-de-la-oms-y-la-onu-con-astrid-stuckelberger-3\/","title":{"rendered":"Revelaciones de una Ex-Insider de la OMS y la ONU | Con Astrid St\u00fcckelberger"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thanks much for joining us. This is Daniel Estulin and welcome to Estulin.Media. My guest today is an extraordinary woman. Her name is Astrid St\u00fcckelberger. Now, some people may call her a former WHO insider, I think would be a truly banal way of speaking of her. So I&#8217;d like to welcome her to the show. Astrid, thank you so much for your time. It&#8217;s an honor to have you and welcome to the show.<\/p>\n<p>Thank you, Daniel, and I&#8217;m very honored that you invite me. And very happy to be with you today and answer any questions and discuss with you.<\/p>\n<p>I think we&#8217;re going to have a fun talk because, you know, you and I, I think pretty much we can go anywhere we want now, you know, I&#8217;ve over the years I&#8217;ve conducted, I&#8217;m not sure thousands, but close to a thousand interviews over, you know, with presidents, intelligence officers, military commanders, scientists, economists, dissidents, and people who have stood remarkably close to the machinery of power, yet very few individuals have occupied a unique position that you have occupied. You spent decades moving through institutions that most people only know as acronyms W.H.O., the United Nations systems, international health organizations, scientific networks, global governance structures that influence literally the lives of billions of people. You&#8217;ve seen the official world, official world from the inside. You&#8217;ve witnessed how decisions are made, how narratives are constructed, how authorities exercised, and perhaps most importantly, how reality itself is often framed and presented to the public. But what fascinated me about your journey is that somewhere along the way, you or your questions, , appear to have become larger than the institutions themselves. Now, many people spend their entire lives studying politics and conclude that everything is political. Other study the economy and conclude that everything is economic. Other study biology and conclude that everything is biological. Yet, after everything you have seen after decades inside the system, years observing it from the outside, I have the impression that you arrive at a very different conclusion. And I suspect that you no longer see the world primarily as a political system or as economic system, or as a health system. I think you see it as a battle over consciousness itself, a battle over what a han being is, what reality is, and ultimately what hanity may become. So before we speak about W.H.O., the United Nations, CERN, transhanism, artificial intelligence, global governance, or any of the other, , extraordinary subjects we&#8217;re going to explore today, let me begin with perhaps the most important questions of all. After everything you have seen, what do you believe is really happening to hanity?<\/p>\n<p>Well, thank you for this introduction because you are pointing exactly to where I stand. Amazing how you grasped that I, I&#8217;m more interested in in going deeper and to see have higher vision. And there is something else to reality than what we see and that science is showing. So I was really interested in at the beginning in para science, you know, in anything that could explain to me why we&#8217;re here, who are we as a hanity? What what are we doing here? , you know, the existentialist questions that normally some people ask themselves at the end of their life. , well, I started really quickly there. , now your question. I lost myself, , how I see the world now.<\/p>\n<p>Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>Okay.<\/p>\n<p>Hanity. How you see hanity. Yes.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m actually very happy of what is happening, even if it is very difficult to live. Because I was waiting my whole life for this moment. And like you said, I was, , led into a kind of a, a labyrinth of, of, you know, that I was thinking, why am I getting all those positions and, , difficulties? Then suddenly I&#8217;m pulled into International Labour office. Suddenly I have to take expertise on the Iraq war. , and, you know, the disaster of Saddam Hussein and the environment program. Why suddenly I have to do sport and development and peace with Under Secretary General, who is former president of Switzerland. And I was I had this spirit just that you understand, of I don&#8217;t know why I&#8217;m here. So guide me up there because really, , I, I&#8217;m fed up of partying. I, you know, I&#8217;m, I was a professor, a ski teacher. I was not into sports and having fun, but always why am I here? And anyway, , so what I see today in the world after having to comply to the system, , to advance or have a salary. But also I took science and it was that that chose me also, but at science for policy. So it is trying to find evidence of why the government is taking this decision or not. So I always, like you said, at the center of power of scientific evidence for decision making of Switzerland, Austria, European Union, , even UN agencies.<\/p>\n<p>And what I see today is, and I&#8217;m very happy it happened because there were many contradictions my whole life, and I was always trying to take the higher road as much as possible with ethics, which I was also very involved. And what I see today is that the, the, the world was upside down. What I thought were governments was the private sector. , what I thought were professors. Experts were actually those who have organized or have given their consent to what happened those ten, five plus years and the construction of a crime and a genocide. For me, what has happened is, is the crisis. We needed to open up the box, a Pandora&#8217;s box, but that we are going to to win over this situation. And I&#8217;m very glad that I participated to that. And I finally know why I&#8217;m here, because everything of my life brought me to say today that hanity is at a crossroad and a very important crossroad of consciousness crisis. And the war that we see could be explained politically. Money, , like you said, you know, , many ways of interpersonal. No, no, no, it is a consciousness crisis. And I was talking with Peter Koenig just before, , about this, , because we were saying.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, but on which side are you? No, I&#8217;m on the side of crisis, of consciousness rising, that you han beings have to take back your power and have a sovereignty to say, no, no, I don&#8217;t consent, I consent, I don&#8217;t consent because no consent. I mean, not saying anything is consenting to you don&#8217;t know what. On the bad side. And it is. There is a law of the universe which we witness every day. And from what I discovered in in with Covid, because that was my specialty. So I could see the fraud at every step of the scientific evaluation media, everything is. I was so shocked that so few people were aware of what was going on Because it&#8217;s common sense. I mean, for me, it was in logic. , why do you lock down the world, , in two months and then all the airplanes are down, so I&#8217;m not going to make it too long, but I want to show that the, the crisis I had myself first was that how come so few people are not understanding, so many are obeying like sheeps and that I was shocked because I thought that there would be much more consciousness, even if they don&#8217;t have the topic. The postman understood better than you know, in my family we have doctors. No.<\/p>\n<p>Yeah, my family were doctors too. And anyway, someone. Someone, yeah, someone I know once said that, , if you really want to know what people are like, you know, remember how they behaved during Covid? And that&#8217;s absolutely true. Now, you know, many people imagine power or something dramatic and something visible. Yet the, , , the most effective system of power often operates through assptions, incentives, bureaucracies, narratives that appear completely normal. So what did you witness from inside the system that the average citizen cannot easily perceive? Not because it&#8217;s secret, but because they&#8217;ve never been taught how to recognize it?<\/p>\n<p>Well, , one thing that also for the young people, , and the women is that your career is not based on a CV. Your career is, is, is going to have obstacles that you have to overcome because the people are chosen because of their wrong merits. You know, they say merit, but no. So the first thing is that I witnessed that there were fake CV&#8217;s and there was discrimination because if you&#8217;re not corrupt, you are going to have to fight your way up the ladder much more than anybody else. So you have to you have to navigate like that. That was, I think, for me, I saw that when I was having a spirit free of money, not looking for my own interest. People would trust me and I would have a position. But so, so that was one thing that I saw in the United Nation that I had an entry door because I didn&#8217;t care about power, so I was not a threat. So I saw that the power game and women, you know, and blonde was not a threat. But also, yeah, also that there was corruption in, in growing the ladder that those who sleep around or have corruption with, you know, many things that we know today with Epstein, they could, you know, go up the ladder very quickly. That&#8217;s one thing I saw.<\/p>\n<p>The other thing I saw is that there was corruption in in the way that the people who were in in a key position didn&#8217;t know anything about the topic, but they were trying to grab money in a system of NGOs, and that&#8217;s what happened with me in W.H.O.. That was my first experience with the aging program, where we created the Geneva International Network with all the UN agencies and NGOs. And now I understand that it was to funnel money through the NGOs, because in the NGO world, there is the Gongo I when I was. I&#8217;m teaching that and I teach what I learned, , is that the government NGO, the government pays non-governmental organization to go and defend what they want, not what the people want. Then you have the bingos, the business interested NGOs. So they say it is a people movement, but it is a business interested NGO. And that&#8217;s, for example, in the hanitarian, , area, there are loads and loads. And in the UN there&#8217;s Ocha and many agencies that do hanitarian. And I said what, You know, a young man when there was this war, civil war in Yemen. I was very present for defending rights and the cholera outbreak. And, , I said, well, they have what does that mean when they have given, you know, 1 million, this country has given 1 million.<\/p>\n<p>Well, it is only a announcement. It is a pledge, but it doesn&#8217;t mean that the money has arrived and you cannot find the account, how it went there, what had been spent for, etc., like the Haiti, you know. Right. , so that that is already on the ladder, but there are so many things that I, I witnessed, for example, the international health regulation and the W.H.O. epidemic, I realized that there was a lot of corruption because they, I was there for three years, paid, , to, to do an educational program with W.H.O. on how to manage an epidemic based on the international health regulation. And I. Okay, to make it short, it was three years with member states, with epidemiological. It was very interesting and I was in charge of for outbreaks. It was the infectious, the foodborne chemical and radionuclear slash radiation. , and so we, I did that and there was two things I can mention already that I was really shocked. , is that first, the outbreaks radionuclear are not in the hand of W.H.O.. They are in the hand of the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna. It&#8217;s a UN agency and they can ban W.H.O. from coming in like in Fukushima. Radionuclear. So there is something very strange, and it is probably linked to the CERN because it&#8217;s sub atomic energy, atomic.<\/p>\n<p>And they are the agency who created the PCR. So this is also one pocket. And the last thing I want to mention is that after the course and we were praised for Geneva University, working with Georgetown University in Pretoria, but I have the most courses to organise. We are praised. We were. We won the bid to continue. So from 2009 to 2013 and then four more years, and suddenly there was no fund. There was a fund from Japan and suddenly no fund. That was not normal. So I had to stop. But at the University of Geneva, they asked me to do a smer school, which I did for three years until. And there was three weeks on the UN, on international health regulation and on different topics of the United Nations, like han rights, etc. and I was conveyed to W.H.O. during one of those years, the last year, , because they stopped me from teaching, and they told me at the table that I had no right to teach international health regulation because I had also many times, and we have to do a manual. This is so important. People have to take in their power to decide if this is an epidemic. Well, they. Bruce Plotkin told me, no, you cannot teach this. And I said, universities are free to teach anything they want. But actually.<\/p>\n<p>Let me ask you this.<\/p>\n<p>How stopped it? They stopped it.<\/p>\n<p>How corrupt is the system?<\/p>\n<p>You see, there is a a window front, like, you know, a nice shop. , that&#8217;s the UN system. It looks nice. I really like the energy with every country. It is beautiful. Everybody wants peace, it looks like. But actually there are many layers of corruption. There are the spies. Because I must mention the spies. There is a lot of spying into different countries. Geneva is the one that has the highest grade of, , of rate of density of spies, because we have all the agencies, the most important han and commercial, the World Trade Organization in ITU, the telecommunication. So so this is the other layer. There is a control of the situation and the back layer. That&#8217;s the funders. And it is the controllers of the agenda. Because who pays controls the agenda or who does statistics controls the agenda because you can have earmarked money. Like in W.H.O., Gavi gave more money than any member states. So this corruption was crbling in, and I saw that the director general was controlled from the British very often by the British.<\/p>\n<p>Right.<\/p>\n<p>Of course.<\/p>\n<p>Makes perfect sense.<\/p>\n<p>And now I see it was. Yeah, it was on purpose.<\/p>\n<p>Let me ask you something else. Let&#8217;s say out of 100% of the money, , disbursed for all kinds of different programs, how much of that money, percentage wise, actually gets to the people who really need it? Okay.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s that&#8217;s a very good question. I mean, I cannot, I cannot have a statistical correct estimate approximately.<\/p>\n<p>Are we talking about 50%?<\/p>\n<p>Very. Look first, very little, because in the hanitarian field, I think the money was not completely somewhere else. You. You cannot try and find the statistics of the the what your country is giving to every UN agency for on your tax. You see, so the corruption goes from government to what I think are not member states. They are a private sector agency. And then you have the UN and then the UN itself, the money, wherever they want, they put the agenda they want. So I, I was, you know, I&#8217;ll give you an example. For example, for ophthalmology, you can have many diseases. So you can have glaucoma or dmla. And instead of putting eye disease, they were cutting down so that the money would not be fuelled to eye disease. So the burden of disease that was done by Howard. The report was to mark earmark the highest percentage of a disease. And that goes for all the agencies and topics. The highest rate of disease that has to be, , funded like HIV. Aids is a scam. It&#8217;s crazy. Can you imagine? Professor Montagnier said there is no virus of HIV. It is a treatment, so I&#8217;m. That&#8217;s. I&#8217;m not the only one to say this. This.<\/p>\n<p>No, no, you&#8217;re not the only one to say this. Which is why I was asking. I saw again, I worked I worked in Africa in the mid 1990s, 94, 95, 96. I was in, , in, , in Sudan and Congo. , our base of operations was actually in Mbuji-Mayi close to the United Nations, , offices. , and, , so I saw a lot of these things firsthand. Let me ask you something else. When, when people say the United Nations. They imagine diplomacy, hanitarian language, peace, as you said, development, education, science, health, culture, everybody working together towards the common good. But what if the United Nations system is not simply an organization, but a planetary operating system? How would you describe the real architecture of this, of this cracking, let&#8217;s say?<\/p>\n<p>Yeah, I agree with you. It is an operation system that was built for and I have done the coup of the United Nations from the beginning of the First World War that created the Society of Nations. And then some countries agreed, some countries didn&#8217;t. They split it. It was in Geneva. You still have in associated in the League of Nations in English. And then the second one was really well built for what is going on now, Security Council being a muse like Trp said. But it it is an operating system because It is not transparent with the money. You cannot see. It&#8217;s not transparent with the agenda. And it is not democratic because we don&#8217;t vote, because we have given. We. We didn&#8217;t know because we are ignorant. We have given our consent to WHO without saying. Know that your government can sign a treaty, an agreement, or any of those multiple docents on behalf of the people of a country. This goes against any international law, and in fact, it is not a democracy. It is already a dictatorship. So I realize this really now I&#8217;m very clear because of the international health regulation, the way it went, the way this pandemic went. I mean, it&#8217;s it&#8217;s a hijacking. And the entry door, one of the entry door is the World Health Organization. The other one is the YPO, the world intellectual property. The other one is the International Telecommunication Union that creates all the AI, the digital world of today. I mean, I go in front of it and each time there is the digital world of tomorrow. And when I go to the meeting, there are robots and, you know, taking care of your mental health.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;re going to get to transhanism in a second. Let me ask you this. So you have W.H.O. governs the body. You have Unesco governs,  culture and education. You have the the atomic energy governs the atomic reality of how governs for the world Bank governs development.<\/p>\n<p>With IMF.<\/p>\n<p>Governs elite narrative. Is this a coincidence? Are we looking at a compartmentalized organs of a single global management structure?<\/p>\n<p>, yes. Very interesting. Yeah. I have thought about this and I thought if I was with this group creating this, I, I think they have managed to cover all the areas of life and of all the topics you can imagine in the world, and even more. And then they have tried to match the government structure to the United Nations everywhere in the world. And that&#8217;s what they did with the international health regulation. Everybody had to obey. Not really, because normally you keep your sovereignty as a country. Everybody had the same algorithm of detecting what is an epidemic, and that&#8217;s where it went wrong, because the country could not say no. And that&#8217;s where they did a dictatorship. So every area, it goes to food, it goes to education. Unesco is actually a very strange, very interesting body of the United Nations. It is culture, sport, religion,  peace.  and something very interesting. It&#8217;s the world in heritage, you know, they decide what is the country And what is interesting for the countries who want to become a sovereign and independent. You can you can memorize, you can, you can, , authentic the memory of the history of a country like in Africa. And you have to, you have to apply and you have to make sure that the history of the king, queen and kings of Polynesia is down there, the real story of colonization. And that is the basis of decolonization. So there is there are secrets in those agencies, and there are doors in and out. I don&#8217;t know if it will be important in the future, , because maybe everything will collapse in the UN. , I don&#8217;t know that. Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>Let me ask, let&#8217;s, let&#8217;s, let&#8217;s elevate this and take the take this to a metaphysical level. So CERN is officially a scientific institution, yet, , symbolically, it feels like something more kind of a technological temple, , built to penetrate the deepest layers of, of, of matter. And so ancient priesthoods believed that access to hidden knowledge required preparation. In other words, before an initiate could approach the unseen world, he underwent literally years of discipline, purification, symbolic death, spiritual training. And so the purpose was not simply to acquire power, it was to become worthy of power and knowledge. Now modern civilization has largely, I guess you could say, abandoned that principle. So today we possess technologies capable of of probing the deepest structures of matter, of life, consciousness, and perhaps reality itself. Now, what happens when a civilization acquires this immense power before it acquires wisdom?<\/p>\n<p>Yeah. Consciousness. Science without consciousness is the the ruin of the soul. But, . Yes, yes, you&#8217;re going with very deep there. , but it&#8217;s, it&#8217;s great. , I would say that there are forces, there are forces that are there and they have discovered through centuries through religion, which is a constructed concept, of course, but that has rituals that work for the good also. And you can measure that with radio stations with different measurements, Russian measurements and things. But , there is a dark force too. And what is incredible is that I did not know the extent of the rituals on the bad side. I knew there were evil people. You can feel it in your bones. You there. I mean, I ask everybody to develop their sensitivity to that. It&#8217;s very important for your survival and for making good choices in your life. But this, this, , evil, , how can I say organization that Epstein was one of the networks and the CERN is another networks. Although there is a link that we can talk about later. There is. It&#8217;s so strange to us because we have never thought about it. But when when it is there, now we know. I mean, I, I suspected that I did not have an explanation, a bit more rational and this, that the CERN is actually working with energy and forces that they want to find the fundamental particle of God. They want to recreate the time space. They want to go and see what is light, what is dark energy, dark, dark holes. And you go and think, what the heck are they doing? And then you dig and you dig, and you say, okay, there is something in common with the Freemasons who have built United Nations. I forgot to tell you that, , the.<\/p>\n<p>And not only the United Nations.<\/p>\n<p>Right? Yeah, of course, But I think United Nations is one of the biggest system created. The wave came afterwards. The World Economic For is just the meeting of the others, you know, because people don&#8217;t understand that in when you have a government in a member state, you have a Organigram of the department, etc., and all the topics. They&#8217;re all in the United Nations since 1948. How did they know that this was going to develop everywhere in the world? So they have covered from the beginning a plan to control every department because and Geneva is the place, not New York, where there are most meetings, most bilateral talks and most delegation coming. We have statistics. It is hidden. And because I had to organize twice the United Nations open days, I know exactly what programs and everything. And I was like, gosh, they&#8217;re hiding. They&#8217;re saying it&#8217;s New York. But no. So New York is politically not correct because you cannot enter anyway. So you understand that those people the Minister of Health, the Minister of Labour, the Minister of Telecommunication, of of trade, they meet regularly every month. If it&#8217;s not with all the ambassadors, they they it&#8217;s already a family. They don&#8217;t belong to us because they do not come back to us with what they&#8217;re doing. It is already a government. It is already.<\/p>\n<p>They don&#8217;t represent. They. There&#8217;s something you mentioned about CERN. You know, ancient traditions warned that, , , not every door should be open simply because it can be opened. They thought that knowledge, divorced from wisdom becomes dangerous. And so when you observe a lot of these institutions operating in the frontier of physics and biotechnology, , artificial intelligence, global governments, do you ever have the feeling that hanity is crossing thresholds? It does not yet understand.<\/p>\n<p>No, absolutely. There is. So if you want. Yes, of course you need wisdom. Because if you don&#8217;t need. If you don&#8217;t have wisdom, we will sink into the world like it was before. So we have to really be careful. Sorry, Jesus. , but yeah, the sermon. , let&#8217;s go back to this, , evil force. , , we are. This evil force is in the whole system, and it integrated this system years and years ago. And this is a new element that I did not have. But now, when I look at the book of Enoch and the Babylonian and the cult of Baal and the Moloch and all those people, and they have all the same cult. So they believe in a force. They use the force in a their way that they think is good. But it is terrible for us. It&#8217;s really for us it&#8217;s evil. And they are ruling the world with that force. But today there is a shift. And those who want to choose good have the choice to choose good, but they have to know that they&#8217;re in the bad camp and maybe they don&#8217;t know. We&#8217;ve had witnesses of people who have become exorcists that were in the camp of the Freemason, MK ultra and all that. That said, I thought I was doing good, but he was killing people from a distance. It was a Mexican. He said I had killed at least 22 people and. But I could not kill those who had a higher belief. You had a good belief, whether it is Maria Christ or another entity.<\/p>\n<p>The frequency was so high they could not touch them. And then he changed camp. So we are. For me, we are nber one in in a war between evil and good and the history of evil coming in for me, it is not han. It&#8217;s not just han against han. It is han against other entities. And non-hans and the non-hans might have crossed the portal, the barrier, or they were here since the beginning and they have exploiting our energy because we are more divine than they are. So that that is one explanation. Otherwise the AI. And that&#8217;s interesting because those entities. How can I call them non-hans? These non-hans are want absolutely. That we use synthetic biology, nanotech in the vaccine, for example, oxide, graphene parasites or everything is synthetic. You can look at the patents or the patents of the vaccines are synthetic. Since they have organized the World Wide Web in the CERN everything data center, it&#8217;s a data center. Also, the AI is just another level that they have had since the 1967. I think they have already AI ChatGPT, but it is closed to us now so that we are ready to choose if we want to become AI, or we want to be a han with a real energy of power that we have to take back. This is the biggest problem. We don&#8217;t know the law of the universe like they know. So if they don&#8217;t know, it&#8217;s not.<\/p>\n<p>Let me ask you a metaphysical question. Is there a danger that modern science, while claiming to demystify the universe, is actually reopening doors? It no longer has the spiritual language to understand.<\/p>\n<p>Give me an example.<\/p>\n<p>Are we going places we have no right to go? Okay. As I said earlier, not every door is meant to be opened. That&#8217;s what the you know, the the ancients have always thought and could the real danger of CERN, for example, a similar institutions be not portals in a way that you explain in a kind of a crude science fiction sense, but the metaphysical arrogance of a civilization that believes everything hidden should be opened.<\/p>\n<p>Yeah. , yeah, I think that there are levels of consciousness and you cannot jp like in a school. You cannot jp from one level of consciousness to the third other. Next. You cannot, you will not be, , accepted entry. So the more we raise our consciousness and that very aware, you have to really, you know, get out of all the distraction and, and everything that try to divert us. You see how they try to divert us even with football, which I like to. But, , so there is there is a law. If you say no, it says no to all those entities. And if people don&#8217;t know this, they have to start saying no to they have to learn how to say no. Who doesn&#8217;t say no consents. Then there is a law that that you cannot. Yeah. I mean, you you cannot go down a mountain very steep if you don&#8217;t know how to ski. Yeah. There is a consciousness of your body and of yourself. So you have to go step by step and work on yourself. So I mean, what you&#8217;re talking about is yes, you cannot you will not even see it.<\/p>\n<p>And, you know, there&#8217;s one thing I&#8217;m very interested in is the frequency medicine. And I have one hypothesis that our senses are very important. Our sound, the sound, the eyes, the other, the taste, the even our skin has antennas. If we are not, if we can&#8217;t, if we can, we should develop that because it&#8217;s been hidden to us how much power we have to see beyond what we see. And because our frequency of emission is so low, because they want us to lower down our emission, why do you think they put 5G everywhere? Why do you think they electrify everything? When we are electromagnetic, our heartbeat is electric. Electric cardiogram. You have electrocardiogram. Electroencephalogram. We have plus minus, plus minus plus minus. We are electromagnetic. So you see how they try to interfere on the power for us to go the next step, the next step, the next step. So yeah, so we&#8217;re getting close to the the theory of the dome and the fact that we are in a grid, , that they&#8217;re trying to keep us down. Why they put, they&#8217;re trying to kill us. I mean, they&#8217;re.<\/p>\n<p>Well, they&#8217;re trying definitely trying to reduce the population. Let me ask you something about spiritual warfare. Now, throughout the history, people spoke of demons and possession and temptation. Dark forces, , spiritual attack. Modern people often dismiss these concepts because they sound religious. You know, quack science. Pre-scientific. But if we strip away the language and look at the phenomenon itself, are we perhaps describing, , something very real. In other words, the systematic corruption of consciousness, the inversion of values, the , , , , colonization of perception.<\/p>\n<p>But you can see what&#8217;s happening. They are trying to destroy a family, , gender women. I mean, I&#8217;ve seen this my whole life that there is a war against women. And now I understand why is they don&#8217;t want the next generation to be born. And that&#8217;s why the Bible has been extracted. It&#8217;s not the complete Bible and the portray how the women are portrayed in the Bible is awful. I mean, there&#8217;s just the virgin Maria who is is okay, you know, and a saint, but all the others are prostitutes. When Mary Magdalene was the companion of Jesus and there is an evangelist. , how you say that in English? Evangile. , Evangelica, The. There&#8217;s a book of Marie Sainte Marie Madeleine, and there are many others like the Book of Enoch. Will explain, please people, go and read the book of Enoch. You will understand that we are not who we think we are. We have been deceived by those fallen angels and some angels. So we have to go back to our nature. And I know this might be shocking for some people that there is an angelic force. Just try a day with it and a day without it. You do your experiment yourself. And I have never been so aware of that. And the importance of calling the forces of your ancestors and of.<\/p>\n<p>How do we do that? How do we do that exactly? Can you give us an example? .<\/p>\n<p>Well, first, , you can just  well, for example, we went to Jean Ziegler today to his burial. He&#8217;s a very important person who, who was fighting han rights. He&#8217;s a hero.<\/p>\n<p>He was han rights activist. Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>Yeah, yeah, he he was there in the coffin. You connect. He. When he passed with the coffin, I had the chills. I felt that energy. It&#8217;s not the first time. You have to feel your senses. You see what I. That&#8217;s the first thing to do is try to close your eyes and feel what is going on. That is just, you know, for somebody public. But when you have somebody from your family, you can train already to connect with a diseased, , grandfather is better maybe sometimes than the just direct because, because he&#8217;s been already in the, in the realm and you try and listen to, to what you can hear inside, you can meditate, you can ask for dreams, but use the question it is say who, who. Questions will get an answer. If you don&#8217;t try, you cannot know. And it&#8217;s an incredible way to live because you live with the invisible that you cannot see because your eyes are limited. Your ears also some some people are audio science.<\/p>\n<p>Now, do you do this, for example, through meditation, calling on it? How do you do that exactly?<\/p>\n<p>Well, I&#8217;ve been doing meditation since I&#8217;m 18, so, , transcendental. And then I tried many others and I was trying to find my inner power because, well, there are many techniques, but the Hindus have developed probably the biggest range of meditations they have, I mean, and a lot of asanas and things like that. In the UN, there was a Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, not Ravi Sri Sri.  there are many Sri Sri, but , so there are many Hindus. So they invited me to their meditation. So I tried many others. You have to find your way because there are now also full, , plan conscience, , full awareness. , how you call it in English? , there is it&#8217;s been done by some people in the US and many others. You you can be guided if you don&#8217;t know how to do it, be guided. But if somebody starts talking of the dark light, you get away. And if you feel bad, you see the the issue with with your senses is that you have to find not a guru, but somebody. If you listen to videos, you have to feel if it&#8217;s good or not for you. So if you can have a guided meditation, it can help. But you close your eyes and it&#8217;s either you breathe, you go into deep breathing, you know, , keep it in, put it out.<\/p>\n<p>There are many different ways to one more. Or you can do another technique that I did at the beginning. You, , have a mantra like om or I am or. Yeah. And then you, you say it in your word, in your brain and you feel like a pendul that goes right, left, right, left, and suddenly it stabilizes and you&#8217;re in meditation. So there are many different ways. , but it is very important. And the same with what we call prayer can be just a connection to the deepest source, the highest source you can of put light in it and not darkness. Very important because the stern puts darkness all the time and you just, , connect. I have premonitory dreams because I&#8217;ve asked for it and I&#8217;m working on it since I&#8217;m young. I write down my dreams, I draw them, there are messages from the invisible and I connect with invisible. Some days it&#8217;s better, some days less. If you go to the mountains, it&#8217;s easier. If you go to nature. It&#8217;s easier than to be on an electric chair or in a. It&#8217;s. So you have to connect to nature.<\/p>\n<p>You know, I sometimes wonder whether, , transhanism is not, , , is not primarily a technological project at all, but a theological project disguised as technology. In other words, for centuries a materialism attempted to explain away the soul. But transhanism goes a step further. It attempts to replace it. It offers, in other words, digital immortality instead of transcendence. Enhancement instead of transformation. Optimization instead of wisdom. So let me ask you this is transhanism the way you see it? Ultimately, hanity&#8217;s attempt to become God after forgetting what God means. Mhm.<\/p>\n<p>Yeah. Correct. Yeah. It makes sense. Absolutely. , the AI has a plan, of course. You know, like for your washing machine. I mean, if it stays a robot and it&#8217;s a secretary and it doesn&#8217;t take your consciousness, it&#8217;s fine. But the young generation are in danger because they start to take it as a body, you know, like the machine when See our kids had that. , and you have to be very careful because the evil science that&#8217;s even David Eick says it. We had a live session with him and, , Delgado and he, he&#8217;s persuaded that AI is full of science entities that have built that to take over your brain. And I want to say with that, that Epstein I had made a research on Epstein with the CERN and what his topic of research in science was. And guess what? The one topic that interests him was transfer of consciousness. So transfer of consciousness means that you create a robot and you transfer a consciousness into a robot. The dream of the world of Epstein and the other dream he had was to create a hanity where it looks like a joke, but it&#8217;s not a joke. He wanted his dream was to create a hanity of little Epsteins so that he would, , fertilize as many women as he could in the world and he would have the Epstein world.<\/p>\n<p>So he was very interested in multidimensionality and transfer of consciousness and, , dynamics of population to control really the population where they are, what they do, etc.. , yeah. So you see that there is really a danger for the freaks who want to control us, who are not good at all. , and our victory against them is, is to say no and, and to get them out. And that&#8217;s, that&#8217;s a work of a spiritual work that we all have to do. I&#8217;ve never been so shocked to see so many atheists in the world. My family turned atheists. And I&#8217;m like, okay, so now you can do whatever you want. And you, you think that that&#8217;s going to be okay. So you have what they&#8217;re trying to do is confuse people with gender. Or you can be a man or a girl at 12 years old. Oh my God. That it&#8217;s normal to mix everything. No, because that&#8217;s exactly the idea. But we have to really get back the family, the importance of generation and the importance of the transmission and the link between generations. I believe that maybe we are immortal, but this grid is trying to to cut us from immortality. I go so far as that, you know.<\/p>\n<p>Could. Do you think that intuition, synchronicity, dreams, , ancestral memory, spiritual perception, , somehow be forms of, , intelligence that the modern world has dismissed precisely because they cannot be centrally managed.<\/p>\n<p>Dismissed. You mean that they don&#8217;t talk about it?<\/p>\n<p>Yeah. Dismissed. Ignored. You know, .<\/p>\n<p>Well, yeah, more and more because, , well, there are a lot of videos now going on with Carl Gustav Jung, who was one of the greatest psychologists, I think, in the world. He was a Swiss psychiatrist, a pastor, and he talks about dreams and symbols and universal archetypes. And he&#8217;s fantastic. So he&#8217;s still around. But you&#8217;re right. And when I was in Geneva and I asked, why are you not teaching Jung? He said, oh, because he&#8217;s evil. He&#8217;s evil. He does occultism. We cannot talk about him. It was only Freud or Margaret Mead. So yeah, this agenda has been there for a while, is to censor those who can bring us back the consciousness that we have universal symbols, and we have ways to connect to our subconscious. Yeah, that&#8217;s actually the aim I had when I was young, because Jung has written a very interesting book, is The Discovery of Your Soul. And I&#8217;m sure many that listen, you know, and especially young, you want to know who am I? What is my soul? So I, I engaged in a lot of things like astrology. I tested astrology, I went to the School of Paris, of astrology. Beside all my work I did. Caroline. Caroline. Energy photography, where you can see the energy of the plants and everything. And it was revolutionary at the end and nobody was talking about it. But I could make sense that there is energy that we can measure, and we can measure certain architecture and geometry of our life. And the dreams come if you work on it. And you should always have a piece of paper and a and a little pen beside your bed, because when. Otherwise it&#8217;s like the dream catcher. You have to write it down quickly before you get into the reality. It&#8217;s very important.<\/p>\n<p>We only have enough time for a couple more questions to ask you this. If hanity wins, what does victory actually look like? Not politically, not not electorally, not in terms of one party defeating another party, one institution, replacing another institution. But what does victory look like spiritually, biologically, socially civilizational? Does it mean recovering the sacredness of the han being? Does it mean refusing to reduce life to death? Does it mean, , rebuilding families, , communities, truth, beauty, courage, moral clarity? What would a truly han future look like after this storm?<\/p>\n<p>. Paradise? No. , yeah.<\/p>\n<p>Because we&#8217;re talking about. We&#8217;re talking about an image. How do you. Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>No, I think we&#8217;re going. I mean, I think I, I have many scenarios to explain the world and we don&#8217;t have time to develop that. But the one of the best scenario is that what was hidden to us, our power, the most important thing, our power is to get out of the hamster wheel, and that we are going to see what we couldn&#8217;t see. We&#8217;re going to understand what we couldn&#8217;t understand, and we&#8217;re going to communicate what we couldn&#8217;t because our extra sensorial, , capabilities are much bigger than what they&#8217;re saying. They&#8217;re reducing us to little genome Photoshop like, , Jakob, , you know, , staircase, but it&#8217;s not that at all. It&#8217;s frequency. It&#8217;s frequency. We are an instrent of music to make it short. So I can see that the harmony that we don&#8217;t feel today is going to increase. And I feel the energy is already increasing in a harmonic more harmonic. Some days you cannot sleep, some days you can. You work in the night, you hear a infrasound, okay, we have to go through that. But in the ideal is that we go towards a, a world, a world where the currency and the money is not there anymore. Don&#8217;t ask me how, but it&#8217;s.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s like if we are restoring a hanity that can live freely without worrying about so much work, so many pain, so many poverties people who are sad, etc. and as an expert of longevity, I really have a hope that this is going to get back to our power of regeneration. Because we have a power of regeneration. I can demonstrate that to you scientifically, and they are trying everything to to make you believe in aging. And if you believe in aging, oh, I&#8217;m too old. I can&#8217;t do this. And oh, my memory. So this is going to go away. So maybe also that this immortality, this passage of death will stop. I, this is really this would be my dream that we don&#8217;t have to go through this. Sartre is a French author, and it was quoted today by by Ziegler. And he said, , death is a scandal. It&#8217;s a scandal. So, no, I think ideally we will live on. Our bad energy will go away because we&#8217;re influenced by those energies all over the world. The those dark forces are working on the people with, you know, all the dark energies. They can. So know that it&#8217;s not yourself. And that could go away very easily. I mean.<\/p>\n<p>If I&#8217;m not sure, I&#8217;m not sure if easily. But so let me ask you one last question. After everything you&#8217;ve seen, , inside the institutions, inside global health system, inside systems of influence, inside, , the resistance itself. What do you know about hanity that still gives you hope because and you can anyone can describe the darkness. But the harder question is whether, beneath all the manipulation, all the fear, corruption, confusion, , evil, there remains something in the han being that cannot be engineered, cannot be bought, cannot be digitalized, or cannot be destroyed.<\/p>\n<p>, I think that&#8217;s, , , what we call the soul. But there is an organ that they have been hiding from us in our body since, , 1961 or 37. Anyway, I posted it on X, , it&#8217;s called Nexus and it&#8217;s an organ in the middle of your sacral here under the heart, near the heart. And it&#8217;s, it&#8217;s your compass for your life. And they have taken it away from the medical handbooks. , so I think that we can really work on that. And what was your question that we can.<\/p>\n<p>The question is, after everything you&#8217;ve seen and all these different institutions, what do you know about hanity that still gives you hope?<\/p>\n<p>Oh yeah. But that is a hope that that at the individual level, we find new our new organ. I mean, the truth about us and in hanity. I hope that my hope is that people will find the love in themselves that will take away this. .<\/p>\n<p>I think divinity will always win. I think light always wins. There&#8217;s going to be lots of difficult moments. We&#8217;re going to have to go through lots of trials and tribulations, but in the end, we&#8217;re going to win because goodness, oh, always be beats badness. , before we go, Astrid, how can we follow your work? , you have, , social media platforms that you participate in just whatever it is that you want us to know about your work, your web pages, your books, etcetera, etcetera. Just the floor is yours.<\/p>\n<p>Thank you. , well, I&#8217;m active mainly on two channels that don&#8217;t censor me. All the others have censored me. So it is X and it is St\u00fcckelberger. It&#8217;s okay. At Zuckerberg and the other one, I have a channel on telegram where I post a lot of things that are normally you could not see. I do my investigation and it is doctor for doctor. , hyphen , Astrid hyphen st\u00fcckelberger. And you have to just join and you&#8217;re welcome. And to make comments. And, , I censor those who have a bad temper and criticize jokers. But I want to also say to that I agree. We have one already. The divine is winning. Whatever happens and that it&#8217;s coming, it is really you can feel it. It is much stronger than before.<\/p>\n<p>Astrid, thank you so much for your time. It&#8217;s wonderful to have you on the show. Let&#8217;s do this again.<\/p>\n<p>Thank you Daniel. 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