Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thanks so much for joining us. This is Daniel Estulin. Welcome to estulin.Media. For decades, discussions about money have largely been confined to economics. We talk about inflation and interest rates and debt and banking and markets, although they exist independently from the deeper structures of civilisation. Yet history suggests something very different. Every major transformation of political power has been accompanied by a transformation of money itself. The Roman Empire had its monetary system, the Venetian Republic has its financial architecture. The British Empire built its power upon sterling and maritime finance, and the American century emerged through the dollar system established after World War Two. Today, however, we appear to be entering another historical transition the rise of sovereign debt and digital currencies, artificial intelligence, central bank, digital currencies, tokenized assets, blockchain networks and, , competing geopolitical blocs raises a fundamental question are we witnessing merely another technological upgrade of finance, or the birth of an entirely new civilization operating system? A few people have spent more time studying these questions than my guest today, Simon Dickson. And today, I’d like to move beyond markets, beyond investments, and explore the deeper implications of what may become the most significant monetary and monetary transformation since the creation of modern central banking. Simon. Thank you so much for joining our show. I’ve been a fan of yours for many, many, many years, and it’s wonderful to finally meet you and be able to talk to you.<\/p>\n
Awesome. I’m so excited to be here. And the fact that you gave that intro made me very excited about having this conversation with you.<\/p>\n
Okay, so let’s get right into it. So most people asse that money is a neutral instrent used to facilitate exchange. But when we examine history, money appears less as a neutral tool and more like a mechanism through which power organizes civilization itself. So if you step back and look at the long arc of history, , do you think we’re witnessing the final phase of this post? , 1945 Bretton Woods order or merely another cyclical adjustment within the existing system?<\/p>\n
Yeah, there’s a lot of symbology that’s happening in the geopolitics today. So, last week, let’s just take that alone. , at the G7 meeting, after the meeting, Trp headed over to, you know, the Palace of Versailles with President Macron in order to sign an MOU and there couldn’t be a location with more symbology, than Versailles. We’re talking about revolutions, monarchies, post-World war two orders. You know, it was the post-World War One order that led to the speculative bubble of 1929, the Great Depression, the rise of Hitler, which was a monetary reform movement, as well as some of the crimes and fascists, , things that happen that most people understand. , even Napoleon himself, Napoleon was a monetary reformer. In fact, he was so reluctant to borrow from the Rothschild banking dynasty, , that he, in fact, sold Louisiana one of the key French assets to America to prevent having to take a loan so that they could preserve the independence of the central Bank of France. , very similar to what happened in in Germany, you know, that whole Weimar Republic, , fascism movement, World War two, regime change. , that was in fact a currency war. , you know, there was the arresting of the Rothschild families within Germany, the creation of a labor backed currency. , and this was based upon the Weimar Republic where the economy was destroyed via the Bank for International Settlements, which was an The organization that ironically, Iran and US just met in in Switzerland. You know, not Bank for International Settlements, but this has been negotiated in Switzerland, which is the BIS is the post-World War One order where Germany had to have reparations paid in gold.<\/p>\n
, but they had to print their currency in order to pay that gold, which led to the destruction of the economy and the rise of a nationalist, national socialist Nazi movement in order to combat that. , and it wasn’t until, you know, the Bank for International Settlements started transferring its gold from Czechoslovakia during World War Two. , which was every time Hitler invaded a country, the Bank for International Settlements was deeply connected to the German central bank. And that gold was actually stored in the Bank of England. So England was simultaneously, , Storing gold that was backing up the currency and the funding of the war while being against the war on the other side. So this whole neutrality of banking and financial interests is, in fact, often an illusion, because the national power is subordinate to financial power, and financial power will often fund both sides of a war in order to be able to to profit from both sides. And throughout history, that has been the case. , and I think that it’s very symbolic, the closure of the Strait of Hormuz right now, , because really the end of the British Empire was that, that whole transition we just talked about, but there was remnants of the power. You know, the essentially banksters set up, the Federal Reserve, funded the revolution in Russia that led to the, , the creation of the Soviet Union, Communist Ideology and also Wall Street funded Nazi fascism through the story we told you so you have three different ideologies, all funded by financial powerhouses.<\/p>\n
, and, , you know, after World War Two, we had the creation of transnational capital, the IMF, the world Bank, the Bank for International Settlements. And then they weaponized the American military in order to fund all the sides of the Cold War, , which people think was an ideological battle between capitalism and communism. , they don’t really care which side it goes, , because effectively, , financial powers funded all the wars, rebuilt all the reconstruction contracts, and then use the IMF in order to get the world addicted to dollars. , and that led the next order. , and it wasn’t until the Vietnamese war that that actually broke down. And so that led to the bankruptcy of the US government. And so a new world order behind the dollar was set up with the creation of the petrodollar. , the 1971 removal of gold as the reserve for the dollar, which was a default on the Bretton Woods system. , and then the complete bankruptcy of the US government that we’re experiencing right now where bonds are used in order to put that on the American people, but transfer that value out to the stock market. And then transnational capital simultaneously is investing in a multi-polar world order right now. , so I’ll pause there. That brought, but just to put context, , national power, with the exception of China today, is always subordinate to financial power unless you get to keep your energy and your resources, which is the countries that have sovereign wealth funds today.<\/p>\n
Let’s talk about that. So the highest form of power is not the ability to coerce, but the ability to, shape perception itself. And so throughout history, power evolved from controlling territory to controlling capital to controlling information. I have two questions. Are we now entering a phase where artificial intelligence becomes the primary mechanism through which perception is organized, and at what point does power cease to be political and become civilizational? And who are the principal architects of reality in this age, increasingly mediated by artificial intelligence?<\/p>\n
Yeah. So the next phase that we’re going through is, I call it most people are familiar with the military industrial complex, right? I believe above the military complex is a financial industrial complex. And interesting with the rise of the technology that the financial industrial complex funded, , with the latest being, you know, this massive IPO in space, , has given the birth to a technological industrial complex. Now, the friction between these complexes, they’re managed as a portfolio because financial power ultimately controls. Let me call it Mick and Tich from now on. So I don’t have to say that every time. , but the Mick is controlled by the fic and the tic is controlled by the fic. But what if we enter into a new world where the traditional blackmail operations that propped up financial power actually become algorithms and technology and social credit scores and artificial intelligence and programmable money like central bank digital currencies and stablecoins. , could we enter into a world where everybody ends up on some kind of universal basic income unless you control the means of production? The AI data centers, the energy and the different components behind it. And therefore AI or the technology raises its own war against financial power and outmaneuvers financial power using artificial intelligence. And we end up in a world where maybe money doesn’t even exist. And that would be a transition in power of the ultimate, you know, financial power to algorithms and social credit scores and control of data, energy and data centers.<\/p>\n
And that’s a transition that I believe we may be experiencing in the years ahead. But right now, the technology companies are still subordinate to financial capital. You know, right now as we speak, SpaceX has done their $2 trillion IPO. What does that mean? They’re now loading it up with debt. So they’re just doing a debt offering that they launched today. , that means you get subordinated to bondholders, you are subordinated to equity holders, and then they use the equity in order to it’s like another form of money printing uses security to acquire different companies, concentrate as much value of the smaller AI companies into these large behemoths. But then you load them up with debt and you make the executives you put your own board in, but you make the executives like Elon wear their net worth is collateralized and their subordinated to financial power. And so if Elon ever goes off track, they can just destroy his trillion dollar net worth by destroying his share price, , and using the derivatives market. So, you know, all of these currency wars, derivatives wars, , bonds, vigilantism, , equity media manipulation, , and, , you know, leverage and debt instrents are all used. I think the correct way of framing money is subordination vehicles. These are subordination, leverage operations, , to concentrate wealth and control the flows of capital.<\/p>\n
I guess you mentioned algorithm. I guess we could say that the algorithm is is the new invisible priest of civilization. , so historically, , priests interpreted scriptures, journalists interpret events, and experts interpret reality. But today, artificial intelligence increasingly mediates what we see, , what we know, what we discuss, and even what we consider to be true or not. Are we witnessing the emergence of, , a new form of authority that is potentially more powerful than, than any government on the planet because it operates beneath the level of, of, of conscious awareness.<\/p>\n
There’s only a few. So think about this as a spectr, right? You’ve got complete subordination and then you’ve got sovereign. , this is a spectr. If you want to look at the most sovereign country in the world today that is completely subordinate to governmental power and national interest is China. If you want to look at the Least sovereign country, and you’ve got somebody that’s loaded up with IMF, world Bank debt that is running out of dollar reserves and can’t pay their dollar reserves. And so they then can only get more sovereign by going to China and say, can I borrow some money off you? Or you’ve got those in the middle. They don’t have a massive military, but they do control commodities, energy and resources, and they were able to keep them. And that means that they nationalized those resources. Russia’s an example of that with the rise of Putin. , and, , maybe some of the Gulf sovereign wealth funds, they have absolute monarchies. , but they don’t have a vast military industrial complex. You know, they don’t have a vast population. And so you can see that right now, like Iran has their own military industrial complex. The Gulf countries had to outsource their military industrial complex to other powers, but they were able to co-opt financial power. And so if you look at who is the largest investor in all the AI, all the data centers, it’s the sovereign wealth funds.<\/p>\n
And where do they get their money selling energy to the largest manufacturing base in the world, which is China. And so through financial power, they’re able to control the means of the new power, the artificial intelligence chips, the manufacturing process, the the ports, the supply chains, , the energy, the liquefied natural gas, the alternative renewable energy. , and so, , in answer, in answer to your question right now, financial power is very much in control. , however, , who is a national, you know, who, if you look at the collective west, we had this neoliberal ideology. Let me translate that for you. That was subordination to the to the fic through transnational capital like IMF and world Bank. So when you think of America. America has the most liquid capital markets in the world. But $70 trillion of those assets are foreign owned. And those are bondholders, shareholders, and asset holders that are able to influence American policy by buying politicians, you know, through lobbies. , and so America is not a sovereign country. It is fully subordinate to fig. At its extreme, it is the most subordinate to fig. Then you have countries that need to negotiate with fig, which are like those that have sovereign wealth funds.<\/p>\n
They’re able to use their capital to co-opt and co-invest and get the assets. Then you have the only nationalistic sovereign government in the world which is subordinate to most people consider an authoritarian regime, which is China. And so that’s the only one that’s actually controlled by the government. , and that is the power dynamics of the world today. Are you owned by the FIC? Are you owned by the CCP, or have you maintained enough of your resources to build a sovereign wealth fund where you can negotiate with those two powers, and that sets up the world as we know it today? Governments are simply if you have a full democracy like us, the Senate and the Congress are for rent prostitutes. It’s a pay to play system, and they look at the mic and foreign interests and say, how much are you going to pay me to implement this policy? Which private corporate interests wrote through NGOs and think tanks? They take the policy that was written by private corporate interests, and they all rent it off and take lobby money. And some are lobbied by Nick Dick, you know, or, or foreign interests. And that sets how many people. And the game of controlling America is how many politicians can you buy? And their job is just to create a narrative through media manipulation that they’re in charge.<\/p>\n
And presidents are like middle management. You know, we just had a regime change of Keir Starmer today. He was a McLeod. He served the agenda of intelligence agencies like he tried to take down Julian Assange, frame him for sex crimes. , then he his whole job was to get as much money into the mic, , via pretending we’re fighting for democracy in Ukraine. And then what’s happening now is that that creates civil unrest when you create civil unrest, that’s a tick agenda. And that’s the same as what’s happening in America. The more civil unrest you can have, the more control you are through algorithm, you divide everyone up into ideologies. I’m part of the pro-Israel. I’m part of pro-Palestine. , I’m a Muslim, I’m a Jew, I’m a Christian, I’m white, you’re black. And you, you create people into these categories. You feed them the most radical version of themselves through AI algorithm and content. And then you stir up the pot to manufacture civil unrest. And out of that, you create the justification for changing the laws in order to usher in a full control grid, police and surveillance state. It comes with digital IDs. It comes with CBDCs. It comes with stablecoins. You know, you do things like pretend you’re giving people freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach.<\/p>\n
What does that mean? While we’re on X, we’re effectively we’re being trained into if we sensationalize this type of narrative, then you get more attention, you get more clicks, you get more retweets. And so people adjust their behavior based upon rewards and even financially pay them for the more traffic they get. Now you control the reach, but why are you giving them freedom of speech rather than canceling ideologies? The reason is, is because they want you to speak. They want you to build your social credit score, but they want to train you into the most radicalized version of yourself so they can manufacture civil unrest. And with that, they can monetize control grids through algorithms. , and the solution inevitably becomes if AI is taking all the jobs, then we’re going to have to put you on a universal basic income. And now I’ve got all of your ideology. I know how to manufacture your interest rate or your access to credit, , through your social credit score. , and I can switch it off, you know, through these digital control grids that we have control of. I think that’s going to become incredibly powerful. And there is a genuine there is a genuine power struggle for the future of money as we move digital.<\/p>\n
And so just to smarize what you said into our question, Democratic systems operate in electoral cycles, whether it’s four years, five years or six years in Mexico. While deep power operates in civilizational cycles. Artificial intelligence now allows institutions to process information, as you said, model behavior plan at scale, , previously absolutely unimaginable. So could AI become the, , the ultimate instrent of, of deep power by enabling elites to think not merely in decades, but in generations? And can democratic societies compete against systems increasingly guided by these machine assisted long term strategy?<\/p>\n
Yeah. The problem is, is that I talked about those, , powers. You’ve got the Chinese Communist Party, then you’ve got the tick, which is subordinate to fic. They all met in Beijing, , not so long ago with Trp. Trp is the front man for real power. The executives of the companies, those executives of the companies, they need access to China’s factory, China’s cheap labor, China’s rare earth minerals, , Chinese capital via transnational capital flows. , and really, China can switch off the mic because the mic needs to produce weapons, these rare earths. And so what we’re being told we’re in an AI arms race right now, which we are, but that AI arms race is really two coins of the same agenda, one global control grid agenda, which requires China. , while you have a privatized, you know, fixed version of that, you know, of that agenda. , but they all rely upon China. And so the belief that we’re in like a war, the concept of World War three is an absolute deluded illusion. There’s no such thing as World War three because the American needs. China. America’s nuclear program requires highly enriched urani from Russia, and Iran’s monetary flows requires a partnership with UAE. , you know, all of these so-called enemies that we think are there, , when you actually just follow the money, you realize, , that so, , is there a nationalistic uprising? Well, that’s why I believe we’re moving to Multi-polarity. You know, the fic is done with the dollar. It’s just asset stripping as much as it can at this stage is creating the largest concentration of wealth upwards. , and, you know, and Trp works for that agenda. You know, if you take any of his policies, , you know, tariff war was to move to multi-polarity Epstein files was to ruin the reputation of dollar as world reserve currency.<\/p>\n
The closure of the Strait of Hormuz was to reprice and create inflation, the prices, all of the small business and small people out of their assets, Department of Government efficiency was to pretend they’re taking on the national debt while they, , give all of the data over to Palantir and x AI. , and so these private corporate interests that control these, these grids are funded by transnational capital and partnered by China. So the implication of that is you have one global control grid and under a multipolar system. And so these multipolar systems are kind of used in order to subordinate governments. So what is the real battle. The battle isn’t national interest. , versus, you know, transnational capital. You could have that, that would require like almost like a communistic uprising in order to take the private assets, nationalize them a bit like Putin did, you know, to take on the oligarchs or China did in post World War Two, where expelled all the banks and nationalised and created a nationalized central bank and nationalized state banking system? And I don’t see that happening. And so if you had a communistic uprising globally, then you could have a return to power to the nation state. But everything right now is being weaponized by private sector interests and partnered with China National interest. , and so in the end, you get this one world. So what is the fight against that? That is peak centralization. The only way you combat peak centralization is through utilizing the same weapons but decentralized versions. So whether it be decentralized money, decentralized AI, , decentralized algorithms, that’s the real battle. So let me.<\/p>\n
Ask you, if the 20th century was defined by struggle over territory Resources, industry, finance any of the 21st century’s increasingly defined by data, algorithms, artificial intelligence, and the governance of perception. Are we witnessing the emergence of an entirely new form of sovereignty?<\/p>\n
Yeah, absolutely. , and so the the winner of this cycle is done is the one that controls the energy, the data centers, the chip manufacturing, and all of the commodities and components that make up AI and robotics. And so your job is to be an owner in that while simultaneously funding a decentralized movement against that. Those are going to be the winners. And so if you don’t own assets, you get eaten alive in the current economy because monetary policy is being used to pp markets. , those are, you know, the whole world order is being flipped in order to control energy flows for AI data centers and whatever energy it may be. , and so you either own the components of production for AI and robotics or you’re investing in the decentralized resistance. So how do I define sovereign today? It’s a country that controls its own resources, has its own data centers. , is able to control as many of the components and rare earths and manufacturing base that make up those components at the sovereign level. , then at the individual company level, it’s somebody that’s not subordinate to fic by having a public company, somebody that’s not subordinate to bondholders through having corporate debt, , somebody that is able to finance their own flows and create their own local community Markets.<\/p>\n
And that’s a decentralized and at the individual level. It’s those that own money that are not subordinate to banks and financial institutions, and is technology that allows you to run your own life, your own model, so you can be productive and sovereign through decentralized money and decentralized technology. That’s what will define your sovereign as a member is a spectr. And so you’ve got corporate, you will be subordinate to some, you know, some nation state agenda which is not subordinate to private corporate interests or in case of China, nationalistic interest. , you decide where you live, but then you build company and individual parallel structures and parallel support supply chains. You know, if you don’t want to be dependent upon World Economic For agenda of, , building fake food with flies as your protein source, then you need to invest in your local farmers and build your own parallel supply chains, because they’re trying to price those people out right now. So it’s community decentralized that’s very hard. So the antithesis of centralization is decentralization. , that’s what will define how sovereign you are, how decentralized are your dependencies. , and, and the same with the nation state and corporate level.<\/p>\n
Let me ask you about, , individual portfolios, because again, people who watch us, some of their investors, others people who have wealth, if you were constructing a resilience portfolio rather than a kind of an investment portfolio, what principles would guide your decisions?<\/p>\n
, for me, I use a less sound. Okay, so there’s two things. If I were just completely rational in terms of capital allocation, , then the problem is, is that I believe AI is in a bubble pp and dp cycle. So if you time that well, you’ll either get your wealth taken out like, like, , if you time that badly, you get your wealth taken out like the global, like, , , the.com boom and bust. But I think that maybe likely the second wave of investors like the private equity and VCs probably just exited into this pp cycle. We know that we need massive quantitative easing. And in order to money print and solve the issue that’s happening in the bond markets right now, we know that’s going to be pped into the equity markets. But in order to justify money printing, you need some kind of crisis. And so that will probably be the AI bubble bursting. Now I believe that AI is going to change the world. But remember, a bubble burst doesn’t mean that AI doesn’t be the thing that changes it. It just means that it concentrates wealth to those that knew what was going to happen in the market. And so if you get on the wrong side of that, sadly, , you may have made the right bet, but be on the wrong side of it. , and so you’ve got to get your own structure, you know, in the things that you live in, , the things that you, , is the future, which is no doubt AI, robotics, data centers, energy and all the, the components around it.<\/p>\n
, so you have to have a portfolio around that. , owning fiat currency means your wealth gets destroyed. You know, that’s a ticking. Like that’s just being inflated away. There’s no other way around it. , so your fiat currency just needs to be what you need for three months, six months of your expenditure, while the rest needs to be deployed in assets. , I believe that Bitcoin is money outside the system. I think gold in self-custody. , so buying those into weakness because there’s probably more weakness ahead. So dollar cost averaging is how I suggest you tackle those. And those are your sovereign strategies. , and then you need the practical things investing in your local communities and various other things, which are just about practicality in this massive, massive, , transition. , I think bondholders, you know, is not the place to be. , I think you have to be in real estate, you have to be in equity, you have to be in Bitcoin, you have to be gold and self-custody. And then you’ve got to kind of managed transition there. , now that’s a rational portfolio and I’ll just give my irrational. Okay, is that, , I believe that money has a spiritual energy and contributing to evil comes with baggage that later comes back to bite you. And so you have a couple of ways of doing this. You either invest into the like, I couldn’t own Palantir, you know, just the evil that that company does interrupt you.<\/p>\n
There’s a great phrase that I use. I do exactly the same thing. I’m an ethical speculator. Crime that pays his crime. That stays. Absolutely. I would never invest in Palantir, in Google. I don’t care how much money you can make, it’s going to come back to bite you in the ass sooner or later.<\/p>\n
Yeah, I completely agree with that. , and so me, I am an ideological thing that may not be from a rational investor’s perspective, the best thing to do. But for me, my spiritual beliefs tell me that that’s the right thing to do. And my entire 25 years in financial markets, that’s paid off for me. , it’s a longer term strategy. , in the short term, you can make decisions that seem bad, but pay off in the long term. And so to me, I need monetary contained spiritual energy securities contained spiritual energy that pays off later as like a longer term deposit to a spiritual investment. , and so me, I but I, but I, I, I understand that that’s not practical for many. And so there’s a couple of ways of approaching it. One is that you invest in that, but you repurpose the money into something that that kind of offsets it as you get wealth. , or you just avoid that and you take more risk and you end up in outside the system. I’ve got almost all my wealth outside the system and which is a riskier strategy. But, but I’ve kind of hit a stage in my, my life where, , I can take those risks and it doesn’t impact my overall ability to function. , and so to me, I’m on, I’m on the second side, , that money outside the system is a boycott of the system. , and then that gives you sovereign power as well as spiritual energy. , that will allow you to actually become somebody that can change the system. So then you are a real You control the lobbies, you control the politicians through financial capital, and you change it for the better.<\/p>\n
Could it be that the greatest challenge of the 21st century is not so much political sovereignty, but the preservation of personal sovereignty within this increasingly integrated digital ecosystem?<\/p>\n
I love what you said there. , that is the battle. It is, it is an internal spiritual battle. You have to understand the world as it is not a sensationalized version of the world, not a radicalized version of the world. Like when I analyze, I follow monetary flows and, you know, I’m almost like, you have to have like a hanitarian hat and a, and a rational realpolitik hat. Often what is happening is not what I would want to happen, but I don’t I don’t understand the world in terms of what I’d want to happen. , and so the real battle, I do believe is an individual battle. , I personally believe nothing stops these trends in terms of the financial systems going multi-polar. , the US empire is being dismantled from within. There’s no resistance against it. and and multipolarity is an interesting new world that breaks 500 years of, you know, the European stroke, American Anglo American empire that’s over. , but there is a global technocratic control grid, and then there is an individual battle with you to protect yourself, your mind, your health, your finances, your wealth, your families, your communities, and the things you can influence and control. But to recognize the world as it is, because the answer is not to boycott AI, the answer is you have to become more productive because you’re not. You’re going to get left behind and eaten alive if you if you try and boycott it. So you have to recognize that’s the individual battle while you’re simultaneously building the sovereign tools. That’s the challenge. Those are the those are the people. Nothing stops these massive global. You know, you could spend your time trying to blow up a data center. It’s not going to change anything. This is still going to happen.<\/p>\n
I think the true battlefield of the 21st century, Simon, is, , neither Ukraine nor Taiwan or Washington, Beijing, London or Iran, but han consciousness itself. Artificial intelligence is increasingly shaping information flows, emotional responses, social narratives, , , collective perceptions. But what does cognitive sovereignty mean in an age where algorithms are learning to understand us better than we understand ourselves? And how can individuals preserve genuine freedom when the battlefield itself has moved inside the han mind.<\/p>\n
Yeah, well, it’s a commitment to the truth, right? , what what is going to feed? Who’s feeding the algorithm? We’re feeding the algorithm. And what are we feeding it with? Are we feeding it with radicalized ideologies? Are we feeding it with the most, the worst version of yourself where you’re angry, suicidal, addicted to drugs, unhealthy, and, you know, arguing, , bigoted in your beliefs, like not recognizing the oneness of hanity, but instead putting everyone into compartments because the algorithm wants you to be the worst version of yourself. So you’re fully subordinate. The best version of yourself, the wealthiest version of yourself, the healthiest version of yourself, the mentally strongest version of yourself is the resistance. And so if you can then plug that into writing your own LMS, embracing, how do I run my own environment on my own computer. How do I use open source LMS? , how do I own, you know, money and self-custody Bitcoin? How do I store my own gold? How do I invest in my own communities and farmers? , these are the, you know, you, you need to here’s the other thing. They, they want you almost like to have a ten minute plan reacting to news in the most worst reactionary environment where you’re distracted from everything. That’s important because the headlines are getting so sensationalized and fast and, and more extreme and, and, and mentally draining you because you can’t keep up and you think everyone’s on top of something and you’re constantly reacting to something else that you’re being told is the most important thing in the world.<\/p>\n
Like you need to resist that. , and the way to resist that is because they want you to have a ten minute plan. They want you to be a gambler, a speculator, a leverage, , somebody that’s betting on events, you know, the most degenerate version of you, rather than a long term investor with a ten, 20 year, 30 year plan, because those that control the world are not, you know, the companies have a three month earnings cycle, the politicians have a two year midterm election cycle and a four year re, you know, regime change cycle. , but the ones that control this, you know, they, they have a ten, 20, 30 year plan that that supersedes, you know, any type of politician or any, anything like it, , or any party. So you need to do the same. So have it have a ten year, 20 year plan, , and just build it every single day when you wake up. , it’s the decisions that I’m making today making me more sovereign, sovereign, sovereign money or less sovereign money. , do I have assets which are, you know, making me more evil or more good? So you.<\/p>\n
And you won’t make mistakes. There’s perfection. Is the enemy here. . You just need to be better or worse. There’s no such thing as perfection. You know, it’s a constant improvement cycle with a long term plan, with recognizing the world as it is, with the objective of being more sovereign. And the more sovereign you are. Here’s what people want. They they don’t mind broke ass people with mortgages and credit cards that are on social media whinging about Epstein files day in, day out. Why? Because you won’t change anything. They don’t care about you. They don’t mind incredibly wealthy billionaires like Elon Musk that are fully subordinate to the stock market, bond market dependent upon military government technologies and subordinate to larger technical agendas. They don’t mind those because they’re captured. What they don’t want is sovereign, wealthy, healthy individuals outside of the system where they’re able to use their money and speak up against the system without a subordination agenda. The more of those we have, the better. That’s the resistance. You need to become one of those, and you need to have a ten year plan to get there, because you ain’t going to get there by gambling on the next crypto for a ten minute pp on a perpetual futures trade.<\/p>\n
Let me ask you, we’re.<\/p>\n
Only about four minutes left, and I want to give you time to to tell our audience how we can follow you. But what institutions or philosophies or even spiritual traditions do you think are capable of, of preventing the emergence of this fully autonomous algorithmic state?<\/p>\n
Again, it’s , to me, , religion is captured by political agendas. , but I do believe like personally, , I believe that the philosophies that come from this, , are, are age Old Testament and my personal belief and many people may not believe in this, but, you know, I think many Quranic principles that were preserved in the Quran, , is a guide map for me that helps me. , others will have their own, you know, their own ideologies. I’m not here to say that, but many of the political institutions that sit around the scripture, , were created for ideological or political or control reasons. , and so, you know, your version of what makes you spiritually connected, , I think is a bit of an individual journey, but personally, I found my truth, , in the Quran and that’s just me personally.<\/p>\n
So the final question, if.<\/p>\n
The nation state was the, , , defining political invention of the modern era, what is the defining political invention of the algorithmic era? Is it artificial intelligence or digital currencies or programmable money? Or is it something even more profound, the emergence of a System are capable of integrating identity, money and reputation and behavior and consciousness into this single architecture of governance.<\/p>\n
Yeah, it’s two things. I, as I see it, it’s what do we input into the algorithm? Like, you know, and which is a reflection of han hanity and the version of you that you become. And how are those controlled and manipulated, which is those controlling the grids. , and so you’ve got to put a better input in, you know, a version of hanity that you would like to see. You need to become that version of hanity you’d like to see, and then try and put it into more decentralized structures as well as, you know, changing some of the control grids, which, you know, are going to be manipulated. Those those are the two things. What do we become and how controlled are the grids?<\/p>\n
Simon, we’re out of time. But before we go, please tell our audience how we can follow your work, your social media handles. The floor is yours.<\/p>\n
Yeah, sure. So, , I, I go live every single week or I just follow money and geopolitics, macro, , and technology and I do that on Friday. It’s, it’s very heavy. It’s like three, four hours. Sometimes it’s more like geeky for me to, to commit to following monetary flows. And I just publish them for everybody on YouTube. , that’s at. Simon Dixon 21. , I then, , do real time analysis on x at Simon Dixon Twitter from when it was called Twitter. , and, , and then I’ve created my own sovereign environment on Simon dixon.com so that I take like the four hour videos and, and everything I do each week funnel it into AI and create like five minute, 15 minute smaries and blogs, , using AI in an environment where if I get shut down from any of the networks, I can still have a website that’s got all the content. There’s a, book.<\/p>\n
There’s a book on your table. What’s the book? It says back to back to the future. What is is that your book?<\/p>\n
Oh, that was a book I wrote when I had less of an understanding of privacy and control grids. But it was written in 2011, and it was the first published book in the world to include Bitcoin when Bitcoin was $3. , and I was going through all the different technologies and, , and, , helping people understand many of these monetary reform. So it was the first book that actually outlined central bank digital currencies, , before it was called CBDCs and Bitcoin and various other things. , but it can get a free copy of it on my website if they don’t want to buy it from Amazon as a PDF as well.<\/p>\n
Simon, thanks so much for your time. It was an honor to have you on the show. I’d love to do this again. Take care.<\/p>\n
Thank you so much for having me. And sorry if I talk too long.<\/p>\n
No, no, no. On the contrary, you you you didn’t say enough. Unfortunately, we didn’t have enough time. Thanks again. Take care. Bye bye.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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